Rachel shares her birth story with me with her first baby. Transcription below.
Marley: (00:00)Okay. Well thank you for joining me, Rachel. it’s much appreciated. So obviously we’re gonna be, well you’re gonna be sharing your birth story with me. I just wanted to first of all ask you is it your first, baby? Yes, lovely. Okay, and did you have, was it, was it straightforward pregnancy? Was it, there wasn’t any major complications or anything like that?
Rachel: (00:25)There were no complications. but on my 20 week scan, it was picked up that there was a problem with one of his kidneys. But I was still considered low risk, so I could still have the sort of birth that I had written down and written a two page document on.
Marley: (00:42)Yeah. Birth plan. Yeah. Okay. Brilliant. It’s quite, common actually for, for renal problems to be picked up on scan and often it’s not really a big deal, you know, they kind of resolve themselves, so that’s great. So when you’ve got, how many weeks were you when you went into labour? Did you go into Labour naturally or was it, was you induced or…
Rachel: (00:59) No, so, um, I started getting bad, yeah, back pain for about three weeks before he was due and then my waters broke six days early. So, I was just sitting at home tying my shoe laces and my water’s broke. I was like, everybody does the same thing. Oh God, what’s that? went into the hospital, got it confirmed that yes, my waters had broken seven and got told, you know, if it doesn’t start naturally in 24 hours, I had to go back for an induction. went home, my boyfriend, made me my favorite dinner and then, probably about two or three hours after my waters broke, my contractions started. Now we had done an online course of hypnobirthing. We were very aware of the process of labour and also wanted to, try and keep it like sort of as calm as possible. So, we were at home, I was at home for the first three or four hours, um, and I was just breathing through my contractions and from what I remember, it kind of the contraction started and then before I knew it, they were all just happening very quickly. but I got in the bath and um, so my contractions started at half past five by about half past seven, eight o’clock, my contractions were three in every 10 minutes.
Rachel: (02:42)I was in the bath for quite awhile, which was brilliant. The bath really, really, really helped and then, um, the hospital weren’t quite convinced that my contractions were, as we were saying, because it would all happen quite quickly. Um, so we got told to time them again, so we did, um, rang the hospital and they were like, right, okay, come in, we can always send you home if we need to. So the car journey to the hospital was the worst experience of my life it is horrible. Bumping up and down on the way. And I just, I just kind of lost my stride at that point. Because you just have to get out of the bath, you have to get dressed. It kind of felt a bit..
Rachel: (03:27) And then I got to the hospital and they examined me and they were like you’re six centimetres well done. From five till nine o’clock at night, I’d progressed to six centimetres. The ride to the hospital was horrific. When I actually got to the hospital, there was a tour going on and I remember being on that tour myself about three or four weeks earlier. And I must have been that case that you were on a hospital tour and you turned around and looked at me, you probably would have fought. Oh my God, I never want to go into labour cause I was like arrgghh! You just don’t care though do you? Yeah, and making that noise actually helps things. What I didn’t realize was the mess of going into labour and what I didn’t know about your waters is breaking is that I don’t just break in and that’s it.
Rachel: (04:27) Every time I was standing up or doing anything, they just kept coming. So it was just really weird. So then, so then we went down to triage and they examined me and they were like, Oh God, you are six centimetres, that’s brilliant. I was um, my boyfriend was next to me and um, they would just like, right, okay, we’ll get you ready to get you upstairs. Cause I wanted a water birth. Um, I just wanted gas on air. I wanted it kind of all like quite like nice and natural and calm. Um, and then I’m being sick and I’m standing up and poor boyfriends standing there with the dish for me to be sick in and there was all like blood coming out. It was just disgusting as we can imagine. Yeah. Then we go upstairs. I got on the gas and air and then I went into the pool.
Rachel: (05:19)Um, I don’t know what time this was. It was probably about 10 o’clock and the pool was just amazing. Just the way it takes off you and just, it calms you down. I was still six centimetres and I was in the pool until about, one o’clock in the morning. [inaudible] well, boyfriend then got text messages today that his niece had just been born. So, um, oh great cousins are maybe going to be born on the same day. Yeah. Um, and then, um, midwife was saying to me, do you want to push you feel the urge to push? I was like, oh, not really. I don’t think so. Um, and she was like, just try. So I tried and obviously if you’re not ready to push and nothing happened and she examined me again at like one o’clock in the morning and was like, Oh God, Rachel, you’re still six, centimetres.
Rachel: (06:11)And I was like, oh no. And the pain, I was just, like I said, I just, I can’t cope. I need an epidural. It was completely against, I was that mum, that judgemental mum that was going, Oh, I’m never going to have an epidural. That’s not going to be me. And after so many hours in pain, I was like, I need it cause if it continues for the same amount of like time, I’m not gonna be able to do it. Everyone has their limits, don’t they? Yeah. Um, so we went upstairs and I had the epidural at about two o’clock in the morning. Um, aand then you get hooked up to the machines and you get put on the heart rate machine. And then as soon as they were trying to, I’m not quite sure on like all the terminology and stuff, but as soon as they went to hook me up on the drip to speed up my contractions, the baby’s heart rate started drop.
Rachel: (07:02)Yeah. So, um, I wasn’t allowed on it. Doctors got shouted in like the whole room got quite busy and we just got told, um, that I needed to be kept an eye on. So, basically got told it’s gonna be a long night, um, try and get some rest. Obviously you can’t rest cause every time you’re having a contraction, your baby’s heart rates dip in. Um, and you can just constantly hear the beeping. They also suspected that the baby was back to back as well. Uh, so it got to about seven o’clock in the morning and the midwives who are absolutely amazing the whole time, kept checking and then I got examined again and got told was still six centimetres and then they were talking about potentially having a caesarean and by that point I was thinking I would rather have a as caesarean because if I don’t, if I don’t and I have to naturally push the baby out, I was worried about the forceps.
Rachel: (08:06)And tthe baby having to be forced out and I just wasn’t really up for that. I was conscious of the fact I was tired as well. But then they said, actually no, don’t worry about it. It’s scrap that you’re going to go natural still. Got examined again and I was still six centimetres and then I got examined about 10 minutes later and I jumped to nine centimetres
Marley : Had they changed your position or anything was you moved had they put your on your side or all fours?
Rachel: I don’t know. Cause I was had an epidural, I was obviously numb, so I hadn’t really moved at all. I think maybe they sat me up a little bit and that might have changed it. But um, yeah, then there was a shift change and I’m with midwives and we got told, um, to just like, wait a little while, see what happens.
Rachel: (08:59)My boyfriend went to get a cup of coffee when you came back upstairs. He said there’s loads of people standing outside the room. What’s going on? And then the next thing you know, they’re all coming in and they said, right, you’re going for an emergency caesarean and the baby’s not even engaged. We’re not waiting anymore. so I got told exactly what was going on. You know, you get read to the consent forms and everything. Got whisked off to the theatre. At that point I just lost it. I just absolutely lost it. I was like, I’m gonna feel it. It’s gonna really hard. I don’t know what, what’s going on. Um, and the midwives and doctors and everybody were amazing and just kept double checking, you know, like dude, the spray stuff they did to make sure you can’t feel it.
Rachel: (09:46)Anyway, Oliver was then born, we found out it was a boy, James did his thing with it and then all of it came back over and then obviously all of the came to me, but I couldn’t, couldn’t really get him because, um, touch him because my arms will numb up to about here. And then I just started feeling really, really ill. Uh, and was going, I was feeling like I was going to be sick. I might have even been sick. I had like the things that dentists put in your mouth to like suck the saliva away, but I was really, really poorly. Um, they were saying like, do we need to sedate her, do we need to sedate her? My boyfriend was like, no, just leave her, she needs to calm down, calm down and then she’ll be all right. And then obviously I was absolutely fine. Um, and then just got taken off into the ward and stayed in hospital for two days and then went home. But my, my whole birth experience I think has completely haunted me and I blame myself for having, I think gonna get upset.
Marley: (10:50)Is it the expectation? Is it the expectations? Do you think?
Rachel: (10:54)I didn’t expect to have an caesarean and then I blamed myself for it.
Marley: (11:01)But you know what, there’s, so there’s so many different factors that come to play, you know, when, when things don’t go as we want them to go. And I think when it should, you know, when it’s your first baby, um, you don’t have a clue. You don’t have a clue at all. Right. And you know what you’re told, you told that, you know, you can have this amazing natural birth and so some hypnobirthing, I mean, you know, I’m a hypnobirthing and teaching myself, you know, um, and you can sometimes get it in your head that actually this is what I’m going to do and this is my birth plan. If you don’t, if nobody tell talks to you and says, well actually, you know, that’s fantastic, that’s fantastic. You want to do that. But they’re um, you know, this could potentially happen as well.
Marley: (11:40)So just to let you know that if things don’t quite go, sometimes your baby could be not engaged or you know, or perhaps baby’s facing the wrong way and the baby’s op. Then if the baby is op, then it can make the labour really long and might not dilate as, as, um, I think, cause if we kind of spoke to more women about that, about those kinds of things, then it wouldn’t be so traumatic after the birth. I’m obviously still going to be upsetting because, you know, the outcome wasn’t as you wanted it to be. But I think, you know, we need to kind of prepare women a lot more.
Rachel: (12:15)Oh, I do think so as well. Yeah. And I also think that there is this massive thing around having, um, an epidural. I mean, like I say, I was lucky myself and I actually saw one of the comments on your page and I know the lady didn’t mean anything by it, but said I had a natural birth, no epidural. And I, I read it and I thought, so what? Whats the the problem?
Marley: (12:39)Yeah, You know, I mean,I think there’s pros and cons with absolutely everything, you know, and I think everybody deals with pain differently. Yeah, absolutely. Um, I’ve personally, I’ve had three natural births I’ve had one caesarean as well, the three natural births I’ve had. Um, all three times I’ve, I’ve been lucky enough to do it without an epidural, but with every single birth right at the end, what do I say? I want an Epidural!. I can’t take it anymore. I’ve had enough. So, you know, I know that it gets to that point, but I’ve been very blessed. I’ve been very lucky that I’ve had quite quick births. If my, if my labours had been as long as perhaps yours or, or many other women, I probably would have said no epidural. I need it now.
Marley: (13:29)You know. But luckily for me, the point that I said I want to live with duro baby was ready to be born, you know, I was fully dilated and about to push. So how did you find, because you said you breastfed for a while. Yeah. So, um, to answer some of the questions, I get a lot actually about caesarean sections because we know that with a caesarean sometimes not all the time, but sometimes it can take an extra day or so food for your full milk to come in properly. You know, a lot of women are okay. It doesn’t affect that. It effects some women and some women find it difficult because of their scar and you know, having to sit up. And how did you find, how did you find feeding your baby initially in the first sort of few days when you really, you know, your wound is healing and it’s quite sore.
Rachel: (14:18)I found it the most natural thing in the world and I am the biggest prude you’ll ever, ever meet. Um, well yeah, just I, yeah, I found it very natural. Like I think another thing people don’t talk about is how much breastfeeding hurts in the first couple of weeks. But I didn’t have any issues at all. I was so, so lucky with breastfeeding it. Um, almost like straight after Oliver was born, he was on me and um, we just, we were, we fed fine I didn’t have any problems with my milk coming in or supply or, or anything, latch or anything like that.
Marley: (14:52)Fantastic. Brilliant. Well that’s good. That’s good to hear because I think it’s nice, especially when you have a birth experience, which hasn’t quite gone the way you want it to go and then that you’d have a positive experience with feeding it. It’s nice that it kind of counteracts, you know, the not so positive birth experience that you’ve had. So that’s great. It’s great to hear. Yeah, really, really nice. So anyway, I’m going to love you and Leave you but thank you very, very much for that. Much appreciated, should you take care. See you later. Bye. Bye.